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Let me know if you have any questions at all and PLEASE let me know the url of any sites you put the banners up on so I can return the favor for you! I will advertise any site you put this banner up on! If you own any of these characters, PLEASE log them in! They are up for pwipe after a year of non-use. Balthamel, Balduvius, Bloodbane, Bobjones, Bushwhacker, Cool, Dedrik, Diego, Fixxxer, Flay, Jamilun, Lucid, Malazik, Manwe, Moonstar, MrE, Niric, Penta, Sniff, Soulphus Winner: hmm... what about say history command sayh? Kiri -- not really great, it would take up too much mem. Anubis: have random equip with randomized stats that appear on randomized mobs once in a while... That way, not everyone has the same equip. people will hopefully trade more too. Kiri -- I've thought about variations on this, too. I don't know how to impliment it in a way that would work well. Malevolence: what about a drink that UN-DRUNKS ya? like what have at about 3am when I want to walk home from a big night, its coffee (just the coffee no water)+tabasco+white vinegar+1 egg. its works a charm, so why not have one on br, that takes drunkness out i Whatever: Illithids should get a form of charm person, especially as they are the psychic race. They could call it hypnosis maybe, low 20s? Dio: have more places to refill air for scuba stuff Lectral: mages - create familiar spell - control familiar spell.. where they take over it's body and can move around in it Wasabe: "REM DEEP SLEEP" an even deeper sleep... where we will be unable to do anything for one whole tick... however... you can't pull it off by just waiting till a tick is almost over... but player should be in REM DEEP SLEEP for the length of a avg tick. Arete: Some race should have a 'sharpen blade' skill... since the weaponsmith sharpens swords all day... I find it odd that the knives never get better... which is what happens when you sharpen the blade right? : Lugin: make it possible to flee while being carried Lugin: how about update the wizlist Kiri -- we do. I update it all the time, but the mud doesn't reboot enough to keep it up to date. The last reboot was Sept 22, keep in mind. Lectral: enflame armor for magical armors Vengence: If I cant get drunk I shouldnt have to get hungry. Thats all I got to say about that, thats the bottom line! Malevolence: hey i know we shouldnt have something that would tell us how long we would be drunk for, but what about a breathalizer then? It could tell you how drunk you are and then we could work out how long it would last for? Babe: i think barren realms should have an invisibilty cloak that makes you invis Kiri -- we do have items that make you invis. Just have to find them. Blink: have 1 of the trainees or the master in the trainee area have a weapon of some sort Anubis: have a post area with signs or have like a seperate thing like notes to post upcomming quests and what they're about Klouth: a scroll titled "Hoodersnel" Kiri - um, what? Anubis: have a page break when you cast locate object Demonchild: Trip really needs to do a lot more then it does right now. Mobs rarely flee, and they can still cast spells on you when tripped! Trip should make the mob completely off guard for atleast 1 round. I refuse to believe that a tripped mob can spin around and defly parry your attack!!!!!! This is Zeusius, Arcane, whoever. i used the idea command but the line was to long and i couldn't be bothered to break it up or anything. so here goes: Ok, if your doing this wand charging thing idea, a possible option would be to ring in mana stones, these stones will be like mana storage, and you use them on wands to give them back mana, but then it won't work with charges, oh well.they could come in 3 variations or something, lesser moderate nad greater, each holding more mana than the next. and if you really wanted to make this i idea worth while you could make them useable on other items, take the mana from 1 item, store it, give it to the wand. you could even have percific mana items that have no use for the mana, like gems and such. this is a big thing and will probably screw the MUD over, but it would be cool. Bio by Bounty: 1 Name? Tyler 2 BR Name? Bounty 3 Sex? Male 4 Home Town? Calgary, AB 5 Born? 1986 6 Living arrangement? Me, my brother and my dad. 7 Favorite TV show? Don't watch TV, no time to :) 8 What's on you mouse pad? Don't got one, *has an optical mouse* 9 Favorite board game? Risk 10 Favorite smell? New car smell 11 Best feeling in the world? Success 12 Worst feeling in the world? Getting kicked in the face 13 What do you do to express your creativity? Wouldn't know, i dont have any. 14 Roller coaster- Scary or Exciting? Exciting!! WOOOOO! 15 Pen or Pencil? Pen 16 Favorite foods? Long live Big Macs. 17 Do you get along with your parents? Ha, no. 18 Chocolate or Vanilla? Chocolate! 19 Favorite ice cream? Rocky Road 20 Croutions or Bacon Bits? Both. 21 Storms cool or scary? Rad! 22 Do like to drive? Very much so. 23 What was your first car? Never had one :( 24 If you could meet one person, dead or alive, who would it be? No clue. 25 Who is your favorite poet? No clue, havn't read a word of poetry in my life. 26 Do you eat the stems of Broccoli? Yes, just the stems. 27 If a girl asked you for the shirt off your back would you give it? Hell yes 28 If you could have any job you wanted what would it be? Sit and play BR. 29 Have you ever been in love? Don't think so. 30 Whats on the walls of your bedroom? I live in my basement, so that pink foamy stuff. 31 Is the glass half-full or half-empty? Half-empty 32 Are you a lefty, righty, or ambidextrous? Righty baby! 33 Do you type with your fingers on the right keys? Nope 34 If you could be one gardening tool what would it be? I pitchfork, no clue why. 35 What's under your bed? Cement 36 What is your dream car? Honda Prelude, love those cars! 37 Favorite sport to watch? Football 38 How many rings before you answer the phone? Half a ring 39 Future son's name? Don't plan on one :) 40 Future daughter's name? *See question 39* 41 If you dyed you hair a different color what would it be? Light blue 42 Shampoo or Conditioner? Both 43 Have you ever gone skinny dipping? Yepper 44 One pillow or two? One 45 Ever been convicted of a crime? Possably 46 What is the first thing you think of when you wake up in the morning? Breathe 47 Favorite music group? Not a group...but...DMX 48 Favorite movie? Rap, HipHop, Tekno, Electronica, Trance 49 Say one nice thing about the person who sent this to you? I refuse to answer this question, i might get Kiri mad...*cowers* 50 Person you sent this to who is least likely to respond? No comment Responses by Baltar: > Replies by Fury: > > >>Conesus: How do you know spells wear off when sleeping? Should you > >>know? [Actually, a message pops up saying... "Your white aura = > fades...", > >>but should it? You ARE sleeping] > > True, but major spells like that leaving you would wake you up for a = > second wouldn't they? If you really want this, I guess it's reasonable, = > how about having the msg's wake you up instead? How about -- big headache for coders here -- a toggle? I can see some people wanting to be able to sleep without the messages awakening them, just as I can certainly empathize with those who don't want their spells wearing off without them noticing it...Some kind of CONFIG option, if possible, for whether they wake you up or you ignore them? Replies by Fury: >>Nerve: battle cry: allows you to change what you say when joining >>a battle, while grouped to something other than "Banzai" >>Tanis: something in your score where you can see your save vs >>breath, probably next to your save vs spell >>Kiri -- currently, each individual save does nothing (another joy of >>discovering the code is f'd up beyond belief.) Once we fix it, this will >>matter more. For now, all it does is add up the saves and that number is >>your save vs spell number. Fury -- Eww, messed up Code! I'd wondered about some of those values when I was area building... hmm... I like the battle cry idea, but if your creative, you can create an alais that does much the same thing. For instance, my good buddy Mar has a alais on his human char. Basically its an emote that says "puts on a big steel boot" and then a roundhouse. Using emote, and a little creativity, you can come up with some pretty cool custom socials. (if you've ever run into me... I will show you some of mine.) >>Nugad: there should be more hero areas fot the influx of new and >>mid-level heroes so people can level without working around others >>Kiri -- read help building and feel free to write one. Fury -- Must Finish Area!!! Really guys, try to add areas to BR, its not easy, because Kiri has high standards, but its a rewarding experiance and you get to add what you want to see in BR (within reason of course!) In other words, help yourselves! >>JBomb: they should make tell availiable for sleeping people Fury -- It is... its a spell for illithids... >>Solkanar: a new drunkenness state: Paralytic. Cannot stand or talk at >>all. Random socials at random times. Blindness a possibility.- all spells >>should fail/randomise when Paralytic >>Kiri -- I'd like to change drunkeness to make a lot more sense than it >>does now. I like the random social idea, but random spells would >>seriously be dangerous. Fury -- Random spells are bad, we have found that out with Imms putting them on their look command. (ie, you look at a certain Imm, and lo and behold your dead before you can catch your breath.) Random Bad! Money Good! >>Kai: a scry command, 'scry ', see where they're at thru their eyes, illithid command? >>Kiri -- Illithids um.. already have scry. 'Scry' Scry Syntax: cast 'scry' target The illithid taps into the optic processing centers of its target's mind, allowing the caster to see everything that its target sees. Available in-guild to illithids at level 19 Fury -- Hey look! Its a record! The fastest response i've ever seen for an idea! It was implimented before you even thought of it! Congrats! Bob, tell them what they've won! I think he means the ability to do it to players... which would be cool actually... >>Nerve: It should be possible to throw potions at mobs with the throw >>command, affecting the monster with the spell effect(s) of the potion if >>it hits. >>Kiri -- not a bad idea at all. Fury -- No objections from the Board of Fury(tm) at this time. >>Kai: A command to see what your AFK message is set to >>Kiri -- also not a bad idea. Fury -- No objections from the Board of Fury(tm) at this time. >>Andasa: An Ill "spell" that lets you "dispel" other Ill spells. >>It's all psionics, right? Seems to me you should be able to control what >>you are affected by then... *shrug* Fury -- Hmm, maybe... >>JBomb: we should have a group who like type group me to be put on the >>list of who wants to group do that again to be off the list group who >>caommand should show who is on the list Fury -- Star command, your signal is breaking up! I'm sorry, but this early in the morning, that is completely unintelligable... >>Bloodmaul: just thought about it, if you created a room down from recall, >>people can use that as a spell up room, just because people have been >>complaining about spamming recall. I know you can get off recall to do >>that stuff, but it would be easier if there's an adjacent room just for >>that and people might use it Fury -- What would be the difference between this room and going 1e,w,s,n ? >>Bloodmaul: I have seen high level morts (above lvl 10) hanging around >>temple altar(clericus) for no reason I can imagine. Maybe you can place >>a time limit for 15 + people staying in that room? >>Kiri -- I don't see a reason to tell people they can't stay in that room >>if they want to. Fury -- The only reason I can think of this being a legit grip is if the high level chars prevent clericus from casting spells... Then the higher level morts need to go elsewhere out of common curtosy (sp?) for their lower level brothers. >>Aphera: make your bank account accessible when buying from stores in town Fury -- I'd actually just like to see ATM machines in major locations where I can access my money... (without the normal service charge of course!) >>See: for timed items we should see how much time is left Fury -- No objections from the Board of Fury(tm) at this time. >>Tanis: I think kender should get some form of Detect Hidden In guild, >>naturally thieves should be able to spot other thieves Fury -- Makes sense on the surface at least... >>Nerve: allow color code for the status bar >>Kiri -- we already have colored prompts :) Try it. Fury -- Wow, twice in one newsletter! We have this... >>Nerve: color code the slists... red for spell, blue for skill, white for >>automatic. Mark oog skils with an asterik. >>Kiri -- I like this idea. Fury -- Sounds like a *very* good idea. Your on a roll Nerve! >>Nerve: allow color code for room, item descriptions >>Kiri -- I think this would be too busy and would also require me to apply >>color to everything. Thanks, but no ;) Fury -- Seen the newest Dodge commercial Nerve? Almost everything... Yeah, this would be too much work. >>Nerve: color code mobs based on how badly injured they are. this would >>be especially useful in combat Fury -- For some reason this sounds impractical to me... >>Nerve: show mobs health relative to yours in status bar during fights Fury -- How would this status bar be done exactly? Also, keep in mind, knowledge of a Mob's specific health is a spell specific to a race, and shouldn't be given to everyone. >>Nerve: include an extra bit for items to print a message to screen when >>they are zapped/bradished/drunk/eaten/etc. Fury -- Define "Extra Bit". If you mean extra space to make it more noticable... perhaps... >>Conner: This may be a dumb idea, but I think that is should be possible >>for heroes to purchase the spells the need from the healers Fury -- Why? Kiri's WWW of URLs: Academic 360, a site for jobs in education: http://www.academic360.com/ This guy does amazing things with legos! and gets paid for it! http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/ He draws pictures from captions people send him. They rule! http://www.explodingdog.com/ Oakley just found this site yesterday. Just try it, you can do some really funky things with faces. http://www.facegenerator.com/cgi-bin/frames.cfm?tultu=1 Some humorous factoids. Chevy Nova Award ----------------- These are the nominees for the Chevy Nova Award. This is given out in honor of the GM's fiasco in trying to market this car in Central and South America. "No va" means, of course, in Spanish, "it doesn't go". 1. The Dairy Association's huge success with the campaign "Got Milk?" prompted them to expand advertising to Mexico. It was soon brought to their attention the Spanish translation read "Are you lactating?" 2. Coors put its slogan, "Turn It Loose," into Spanish, where it was read as "Suffer From Diarrhea." 3. Scandinavian vacuum manufacturer Electrolux used the following in an American campaign: "Nothing sucks like an Electrolux." 4. Clairol introduced the "Mist Stick," a curling iron, into Germany only to find out that "mist" is slang for manure. Not too many people had use for the "Manure Stick." 5. When Gerber started selling baby food in Africa, they used the same packaging as in the US, with the smiling baby on the label. Later they learned that in Africa, companies routinely put pictures on the labels of what's inside, since many people can't read. 6. Colgate introduced a toothpaste in France called Cue, the name of a notorious porno magazine. 7. An American T-shirt maker in Miami printed shirts for the Spanish market which promoted the Pope's visit. Instead of "I saw the Pope" (el Papa), the shirts read "I Saw the Potato" (la papa). 8. Pepsi's "Come Alive With the Pepsi Generation" translated into "Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back From the Grave" in Chinese. 9. The Coca-Cola name in China was first read as "Kekoukela", meaning "Bite the wax tadpole" or "female horse stuffed with wax", depending on the dialect. Coke then researched 40,000 characters to find a phonetic equivalent "kokou kole", translating into "happiness in the mouth." 10. Frank Perdue's chicken slogan, "It takes a strong man to make a tender chicken" was translated into Spanish as "it takes an aroused man to make a chicken affectionate." 11. When Parker Pen marketed a ball-point pen in Mexico, its ads were supposed to have read, "It won't leak in your pocket and embarrass you." The company thought that the word "embarazar" (to impregnate) meant to embarrass, so the ad read: "It won't leak in your pocket and make you pregnant!" 12. When American Airlines wanted to advertise its new leather first class seats in the Mexican market, it translated its "Fly In Leather" campaign literally, which meant "Fly Naked" (vuela en cuero) in Spanish! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get paid to read email - 5 cents per email! http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/id/669307 Or ten cents an email: http://www.yoyomail.com/cgi-bin/a?referral=kiri and make money! If you are getting this email, you are on the NON-HTML (no pictures) newsletter list. If you'd like to get pictures, reply to me saying you want html. Don't worry, if it doesn't work, I'll switch you back. -Kiri Sorry for the late newsletter. Law school is hard :) News of the Realms: Joysinger and Everybody's Halloween Quest: 1. decide on a topic. we'll judge on originality (overall 1st place) and presentation (1st place for heroes and 1st place for morts available) 2. have 9 equ slots used. (18 overall) 3. no nodrop stuff (thinking of corpses here), noremove is fine with me. 4. alignment is not a problem, nor is the level of the object. (you can have antievil/antineutral and antigood/antineutral stuff) 5. no renames (of course ;), counts for heroes and morts) and don`t turn in stuff you want to keep (does not apply for heroes since i can hand their stuff back ;) ) 6. use locate, summon, teleport, track as much as you want to. if you don`t have locate, you can ask me (if i am in a good mood i`ll help ya ;) ) 7. last date for turn-ins is halloween. you can give me stuff earliest on tuesday. i will hand out bags to you to put your stuff in ;) 8. only one costume per character. you can turn in more, but tell me if you do so you are not the only winner ;) then only your "best" costume wins 9. turned in is turned in. no after-changes (sorry, but you have enough time ;) 10. when you are done, send a note or email to EB and me with at least the topic. eventual notes/comments on your thoughts might be helpful, tho ;) eb has her mail profiled i believe ;) mine is sharunel@gmx.de thanks again to eb for hosting this, and i hope you guys have fun :) remember: the more participants, the better/more prizes we can do ;) its worth it. happy hunting, *hugs* joy p.s.: questions? ask me when you see me ;) For those of you who haven't yet, remember to vote for us at Topmudsites: http://www.topmudsites.com/cgi-bin/topmuds/rankem.cgi?id=brkiri This will do wonders for keeping players coming to BR! A request of mortals -- some people you will see will have a color and a team in their title - for example, Kiri of the Black team.. If you see these people, please don't offer to give them any assistance (enchants, eq, anything) because they're heroes and imms playing on a hero quest given to them and they have certain rules (like they can't take help from regular morts) for the quest. Thanks in advance :) IDEAS FOR BR: WolfBane: in the helpfile for locate object, it should specifically note that you can only use one word in the spell WolfBane: perch for avians, instead of the whole healing spell, the avian perches on a nearby tree and recovers hp at 2X ror 3X normal rate, but its also like speeing and no moving Taz: I think items donated should be flagged so they can't be sold, and I also think that the donation rooms should hold a larger amount of donations for a longer period of time AMystery: to make the races more unique equipment and playability wise, change the prime attribute max to be 30 or so, so that people will focus more on maxxing it, will also change the playability of the races Hiddukel: an improved invis - Users stay invis after attacking or being attacked, also improves AC as it would be difficult to hit someone you can't see no matter how good a veteran combatant you may be AMystery: change the thief code so that thieves can try to steal gold from bags. since they don't know which bag they would randomly try each one. of course since they are greedy they will try for bags instead of gold on a player sometimes. AMystery: let mobs be able to defile corpses by removing gold from them, like thieves do. maybe also let them take treasure flagged items. nothing else Anubis: Idea: I was thinking about spellcasters in BR and realized that they were really lacking. There is almost no advantage of being an elf compared to a dwarf or avian. What do I mean? The offensive spells of spell casters are obsolete and serve no real purpose. With all of my spellcasting characters (ie: elf, druid, ill) the defensive and misc. spells were very helpful, but the attack spells had no real advantage over not using spells. As an elf, I did more consistant damage just attacking than using spells such as shocking grasp or acid blast. With good equip, a spell caster can get in one good damaging attack a round. On average, I delt more damage with weapons than with spells, which cost an insane amount of mana at lower levels. There is no clear-cut advantage of offensive spells for a mage over just duking it out like a fighter. At higher levels, offensive spells deal much less damage than attacks with weapons. Lets compare a dwarf with an elf. The elf has fireball at level 18, and is perhaps the best truly offensive spell he will get up until lvl 48. The dwarf on the other hand has dual, second and third attack, and enhanced damage. With these skills, the dwarf is able to attack up to 6 times a round as opposed to the elf who is only able to cast one attack spell each round (at maximum, most times I find myself only getting in one or two spells each time I fight). Not only does the dwarf get more attacks, he is also able to do more damage than spells with enhanced damage. What does this mean? Offensive spells are pretty crapy and useless right now. Most helpful spells cast are heal, combat mind, frenzy, sanc, and armor class reducing spells (shield, armor, etc). Many of these can be gotten by fighters through other means. (ie: portraits of simple, ivory staff, nectar, and other items give sanc) To make playing spellcasters more enjoyable, I think we should increase the usefulness of offensive spells. To give an elf incentive for using his/her spells rather than just fighting. One idea I have for this is ranged spells. In many other role-playing games, wizards have an advantage over fighters in the fact that they can cast spells from far away rather than be exposed to danger in melee. I was looking at the throw ability for avians and kender. I thought a ranged spell, or spells that can affect adjacent rooms could be helpful. Even more powerful ones may even knock down the mob and give the caster a little time before the mob runs over and tries to attack. Another idea is a sequencer ability for spell casters. Depending on the level of the spell caster, he/she may have a spell sequencer that casts a certain number of spells the round they invoke it. This is different than aliases. With aliases, the spells all occur in different rounds. I am thinking perhaps one spell to sequence every 10 levels? The last idea I have is the ability for the spellcaster to replace the default attack with a spell attack. ie: instead of attacking with his/her weapon, the spell caster casts the spell that he/she has replaced the attack with if he/she has mana. That way, it would be more realistic. Wouldn't a good spellcaster would be attacking with spells rather than weapons? Likewise, there could be a wimpy for spellcasters this way in reguard to their mana. If their mana drops below a specified point, they flee. Those are the ideas, thanx for reading them. BIO -- I'm out of these, so send more! Just reply and fill in where the other people did. 1 Name? Allan 2 BR Name? Solitude 3 Sex? When I'm in the mood, why not? 4 Home Town? Manila, Philippines 5 Born? October of 76 6 Living arrangement? Me, my parents, two maids, my dog and 6 goldfish 7 Favorite TV show? Anything sci-fi, Earth Final Conflict for now 8 What's on you mouse pad? grime 9 Favorite board game? Chess 10 Favorite smell? I dunno, this perfume this girl I met once wore 11 Best feeling in the world ? The feeling you get when someone looks at you after you've kept your word 12 Worst feeling in the world ? The feeling you get after having one too many dairy products 13 What do you do to express your creativity? Draw 14 Roller coaster- Exciting, as long as I'm not full 15 Pen or Pencil? Pencils for drawing, pens for writing 16 Favorite foods? Anything hot and spicy 17 Do you get along with your parents? yupyup 18 Chocolate or Vanilla? Vanilla 19 Favorite ice cream? Strawberry 20 Croutions or Bacon Bits? Bacon bits 21 Storms cool or scary? cool, DEFINITELY cool 22 Do like to drive? If traffic is light or if traffic is heavy and I'm with someone I like =) 23 What was your first car? my dad's Honda Civic 24 If you could meet one person, dead or alive, who would it be? Jesus Christ 25 Who is your favorite poet? Robert Frost 26 Do you eat the stems of Broccoli? sure, mixed with other stuff though 27 Guys- If a girl asked you for the shirt off your back would you give it? I've done it before 28 If you could have any job you wanted what would it be? I'm training to be a pilot right now so I'm happy =) 29 Have you ever been in love? Who hasn't? 30 Whats on the walls of your bedroom? Classic Art reprints: My brother's Jordan Memorabilia, a mirror and a small gecko 31 Is the glass half-full or half-empty? full, always full 32 Are you a lefty, righty, or ambidextrous? righty 33 Do you type with your fingers on the right keys? wish I could 34 If you could be one gardening tool what would it be? One of those big noisy lawnmowers you can ride on I guess 35 What's under your bed? the floor? 36 What is your dream car? a basic Porsche 37 Favorite sport to watch? wallclimbing 38 How many rings before you answer the phone? 2 39 Future son's name? Allan 40 Future daughter's name? My wife's name probably 41 If you dyed you hair a different color what would it be? dark blue, just for kicks 42 Shampoo or Conditioner? shampoo, plus conditioner sometimes 43 Have you ever gone skinny dipping? with, or without someone? heh 44 One pillow or two? 2 45 Ever been convicted of a crime? not yet, heh 46 What is the first thing you think of when you wake up in the morning? Who nailed me to this bed? 47 Favorite music group? Nothing specific, lately Trance and Club Music 48 Favorite movie? The Last Starfighter, since I was in grade school 49 Say one nice thing about the person who sent this to you? Kiri? That chicks one more reason to keep comin' back to BR! =) 50 Person you sent this to who is least likely to respond? Wouldn't know, haven't logged in in a while. Miss you Realmers!!! RESPONSES BY SCAVENGER: > Ska: what about drunks understanding other drunks? > Hmm, have you ever watched two drunks trying to talk to each other IRL? Maybe we could make it so that one drunk could understand another drunk after a one minute lag? *grin* > Firestar: Just a silly idea...but, what about having a spell > where you can make objects invisible for a short period of time...or just > working that into the already existing invisibility spell?? > I am curious as to why you would want an invisible item? Is there any reason outside of the obvious humor value? > Anubis: make it so that you can turn peek on and off. Either that, or > put a screen pause when you look at someone if it's over so and so > lines. I'm using telnet and most of the time I can't see what ppl are > actually wearing. > Well, there's always the option of getting a telnet or mud client with scrollback. ;-) > > Stonehenge: Umm, how about getting rid of 0 hours left on a spell > > and having the spell disappear after 1 hour? > > I guess I don't have a problem with things being zero-based (starting at > zero), since I'm a computer person. It makes sense to me the way it is. > Think of it this way. If there's 30 minutes left in your spell, how many hours is that? Zero! Of course, that doesn't make the message any less confusing to newbies. Maybe a different way of displaying it when it reaches 0 like "which is about to wear off". Kiri's WWW of URLs: Atomic Tonic -- Atomic Tonic. A web zine with a range of topics from Celebrity Stalking to How To Guides. Also, forums for all. http://www.atomictonic.com/Index.html Are you irresistible? Or just plain ol' boring? 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